The Irish State is seen by voters as an enemy and oppressor
22 August, 2011
Peter Mair, who died recently, was a leading political scientist, well known in Ireland and Europe. The Irish Times last Saturday published an edited version of his recent address to the MacGill Summer School. Part of it dealt with the Irish electorate’s attitude to the State and with our dysfunctional voting system.
The problem here is that we don’t respect our State. We have never respected our State. We have never had a sense of belonging for our State. If anything we have viewed the State as the enemy, as an oppressor, as something not to be trusted but to be taken advantage of.
That’s the culture of the cute hoors, the strokes, you get away with it and getting away with it against the State is getting away with something which is not us and doesn’t belong to us but belongs somewhere out there and it is not ours . . . We have in Ireland an electoral system that you might call amoral localism – which is that you do anything you can to benefit your locality and your constituency and your district, and your TD will do anything he can to benefit your locality and your district and your constituency and, in a sense, damn everything else…..
We have been so busy as citizens in ensuring the representation of our own interests and those of our constituencies that we have lost sight of the broader, collective interest, we have lost sight of that a long time ago. We exert great control over our TDs [but] have never sought to exert any control over our governments.
And the result is a huge vacuum in terms of responsibility and in terms of authority right at the centre of the stage of government. As citizens, we never held our governments accountable for their policies – we are too busy holding our TDs accountable for their local activities.
Mair said the first change that was needed is a change in our electoral system (which of course is one of my hobby horses).
From my point of view there are at least three things which should be done. These are small things and relatively easy to do but if you look across Europe, maybe important things to do.
The first is we need to reform our electoral system. What sort of electoral system we get instead is more open to question but we need to get away from this multiseat constituency competition which ensures great representation of Irish voters but also leads to amoral localism and this aggregates our voices. Michael D Higgins once said that Irish politics disaggregates the poor – it doesn’t just disaggregate the poor, it disaggregates everybody except the special interests.
I’m not sure that I agree that changing our electoral system is a small thing and relatively easy to do: firstly, turkeys are not accustomed to voting for Christmas so the present incumbents are likely to oppose change in a system which has worked well for them; and secondly, when alternative systems are proposed we find that they are shot down as not being perfectly suited to Irish conditions – as Voltaire supposedly said, “the best is the enemy of the good”.
I have posted on this subject a number of times, for instance here and here. Good to see that the late Peter Mair was of the same mind.
Rational politicians, irrational voters
7 August, 2011
This short paper (Smart Taxes: An Open Invitation to Join the Pigou Club) is worth reading for its discussion of Pigovian taxes, of gasoline taxes (in a USA context), and generally of “topics about which there is a large gap between the beliefs of economists and those of the general public”. It’s written by an economist whom I have mentioned previously, Gregory Mankiw.
As the financial world goes into meltdown mode, the following extract from Mankiw’s paper struck me as an encapsulation of where it all went wrong for free-market democracies in most of the western world.
In a democracy, of course, economic policy is set not by economists but by the general public. One of my favorite books of recent years is Bryan Caplan’s treatise The Myth of the Rational Voter, subtitled Why Democracies Choose Bad Policies. The answer Caplan offers is that voters are worse than ignorant about basic economic principles of good policy. Ignorance, at least, would have the virtue of being random and so perhaps would average out to zero in a large population. Instead of being merely ignorant, voters hold onto systematically mistaken beliefs. And politicians, whose main job is to get elected, mold those mistaken beliefs into bad public policy. To quote Caplan, “What happens if fully rational politicians compete for the support of irrational voters–specifically, voters with irrational beliefs about the effects of various policies? It is a recipe for mendacity.”
Of course, while admitting that free-market democracies are having it tough, it must also be emphasised that alternative systems work even less well, at least in anything other than the short term – as the USSR found out, and as China undoubtedly will in the near future. That’s why it’s distressing to find commentators wobbling in their support for free-market solutions. See, for instance, the Telegraph’s Charles Moore who wrote a recent article* headlined “I’m starting to think that the Left might actually be right”. Just the bathwater, please, not the baby too.
Not surprisingly, there’s no easy solution to this crisis of economics and politics. But any long-term fix must include a much more rigorous teaching of the basic principles of economics to all citizens. We allow all those of a certain age to vote for whatever government they want, yet we fail to educate those voters properly about the economic consequences of so doing. We should not then be surprised when (as Caplan noted) rational politicians compete for the support of irrational voters with ultimately calamitous policies.
*Although one is tempted to have some sympathy with Moore’s views on banks: “…. when the banks that look after our money take it away, lose it and then, because of government guarantee, are not punished themselves, something much worse happens. It turns out – as the Left always claims – that a system purporting to advance the many has been perverted in order to enrich the few. The global banking system is an adventure playground for the participants, complete with spongy, health-and-safety approved flooring so that they bounce when they fall off. The role of the rest of us is simply to pay.”
Depositors are wary of Irish banks – are they right?
17 February, 2011
So can senior bank bondholders be singled out for “burning”? Many general election candidates are playing hairy-man politics and insisting that the new government should do just that, with or without EU/IMF agreement, while of course not touching depositors at all.
Meanwhile, in Denmark, Amerganbanken has gone bust, and depositors with assets over €100,000 (the amount guaranteed by the national deposit protection scheme) suffered a haircut alongside senior creditors, despite the bank being taken over by the state agency responsble for failed banks.
Just what are the legal arguments as to whether or not depositors can be treated differently from senior bondholders? Does it depend on the wording of the individual bonds, or do all bonds conform to a standard set of terms and conditions? Or is the issue governed by general legal principles which an Irish court would have to determine? Why has nobody issued clarification on these questions?
So should somebody with (say) €200,000 on deposit with AIB be worried? Life is never risk-free, so the question people are asking is whether the interest rate they are getting with an Irish bank is sufficiently high to compensate for default risk, when compared to the rate offered by a safer (?) non-Irish bank, or an Irish subsidiary/branch of a foreign bank.
Can somebody of an expert and trustworthy nature please throw some light on the exact position? That is to say, can senior bank bondholders legally be singled out for “burning” without depositors having to share the pain? Until then, I am staying away from Irish banks.
Vote for Eric!
3 February, 2011
I see from this morning’s paper that at least one candidate in the general election has had the good sense (?) to adopt my somewhat unusual political manifesto, which I set out in a post last September (link), and which I repeat here:
- I will not put purely local constituency interests before national interests.
- I will not help you to jump a queue for spurious reasons.
- I will not help you get something to which you are not in principle entitled.
- I will not hold “clinics” – here are my contact details – please make an appointment to see me, or send me an email, if it’s important.
- If you want assistance on a purely local government matter, well here’s a list of all the local government representatives. Don’t bother me about it…..
- I will not support any Government measure which will increase expenditure significantly, unless it is clear where the extra taxation will come from.
- I will not claim for reimbursement of any unvouched expenses.
- I will publish online all the expenses I have claimed.
- I will not go to your funeral (or that of any member of your family) unless I actually know and like you.
- I will not perform the opening ceremony for your shop/pub/hairdressing business/laundry/….
- If you break the law, I will not plead with the Minister, or with officialdom, for clemency
- I will not accept additional payment for serving on any Oireachtas committee.
- I will spend almost all my available time on legislative and parliamentary matters.
According to The Irish Times,
Eric Coyle-Higgins, an Independent candidate in Kildare North, has made a bold election pledge. “I promise never to attend a funeral, save where the deceased was personally known to me.” But that’s not his only electoral promise by any means. He also pledges “never to call to constituents’ doors seeking their votes” or to hold traditional party clinics. He continues: “I promise never to accept so much as a single cent in travel expenses . . . or to pursue the interests of Kildare North with indifference to the overall national interests . . . or to otherwise engage in political gombeenism”.
Well done, Eric. That’s putting it up to the voters, who keep screaming that crap politicians get elected to Dáil Éireann, but who insist on electing those same crap politicians because “they are good for the constituency”.
It should be interesting to watch - I just wish I had a vote in Kildare North. But I’m not holding my breath: I fear local gombeenism will continue to triumph over national issues, because it will take a change to our electoral system to make any appreciable difference.
Votes for emigrants – a dangerous idea
27 January, 2011
Sarah Carey has a useful piece in today’s Irish Times. She deals with (and comes out against) the suggestion that emigrants should (even if they don’t pay Irish taxes) have a vote in Irish elections. I find it incredible that votes for emigrants is being seriously suggested, given that (a) the Irish diaspora is very large relative to the size of the resident population and (b) non-residents wouldn’t have to live with the fiscal consequences of decisions made by the politicians they would help to elect – a basic unfairness.
Votes for non-tax-paying emigrants is another example of woolly thinking by the chattering classes, based on sentiment rather than practical reality. If we are going to make changes to our electoral laws, then we should instead focus our energies on changing our system to one that will help reduce the impact of clientelism and parish pump politics – such as the one suggested recently by former Attorney-General John Rogers.
An extract from Sarah Carey’s article:
There has to be a mechanism whereby those who vote have to consider the personal consequences of that vote. Living here means you have to live with your decision. Sadly, you have to live with other people’s decisions too but that’s another day’s work.
I like too the guiding principle of “no taxation without representation”. It’s not reasonable that people who don’t pay taxes to the State should be allowed to have a say in how those taxes are collected and distributed. Those living in Ireland, no matter how poor, will pay tax, directly or indirectly.
If we are to change this system and insist that citizenship and not residency is the basis of the franchise, the right to vote must come with some corresponding obligations. Paying tax is the obvious choice.
We know of course that in the American War of Independence, the rallying cry “no taxation without representation” helped to bind together the insurgent forces. However, thinking about the words quoted above, I wonder did the sub-editors mistakenly amend what I suspect Sarah intended to write in the second paragraph. If she had written “no representation without taxation” instead of “no taxation without representation”, it would have made more sense!
In passing, I note that a wicked friend of mine opposed the election of Mary McAleese as President of the Republic of Ireland: his reasoning was that the principle of “no representation without taxation” should apply and, as Mrs McAleese was tax-resident in a “different jurisdiction” (ie the United Kingdom), she should not be our most exalted representative.
Hanafin: sound like she’s an overpaid county councillor, not what’s needed as a party leader
6 January, 2011
Mary Hanafin, supposedly one of the front-runners in any battle to take over leadership of Fianna Fáil, has revealed in comments to the Irish Times not only that she is unsuited to a leadership role, but also the dismal state of our national politics.
Ms Hanafin said she had taught in Blackrock for 17 years and had a very strong base there. In her 13 years as a TD she had “absolutely worked every day of it, with every group, every school, every community, every church fair, every everything. I mean, this has been my life”.
These revealing remarks again demonstrate that we are electing messenger boys/girls to Dáil Éireann, who love the feeling of power that being a TD entails, but have no guiding principles as to what should be done with that power. Have you any idea, dear reader, what Ms Hanafin stands for politically, other than getting elected and helping her party retain power?
I am more than ever convinced that our current electoral system is unfit for purpose, in that it produces TDs who are good at local stroke-pulling to win votes, but have little grasp of vital macro issues. The standard of debate in Dáil Éireann is as a result execrable, and it is futile to expect such politicians to carry out their role as legislators with any degree of competence or any degree of independence from the Executive. It is not stretching things too far to say that the genesis of our recent economic collapse lies in our persistent unwillingness or inability to elect serious, intelligent politicians.
In the same Irish Times article, fearing she may have given the game away, Ms Hanafin tries to recover ground with her parting comments, which seem to contradict her above assertion of parish-pump primacy:
“The next election is about the future of the country and the economy. It’s not about the Dún Laoghaire baths or the 46A [bus],” Ms Hanafin said.
Too late, Mary.
Great piece about FF in Sunday Tribune – tells it like it is
2 December, 2010
Well done, Diarmuid Doyle. Your comment piece in last Sunday’s Tribune was badly needed (although it was a bit unfair to pick on John McGuinness, one of the few FF TDs who recognises what a useless shower most of his fellow party members are).
The piece was entitled “In Fianna Fáil the individual comes first, then the party, then the country…” and I hope you don’t mind if I quote extensively from it.
…… Anything more than 30 seats for Fianna Fáil in the next election would be yet another blow to Ireland’s hopes of long-term recovery as it would raise the possibility of the party regrouping over the next 10 years, returning to power, and destroying us again.
Because that’s what Fianna Fáil does, that’s what Fianna Fáil is……… While Fianna Fáil was winning three elections in a row during the boom period, posing as the guardian of a modern, wealthy, thrusting Ireland, many people – this columnist included – were banging a silent drum, articulating a widely ignored message: Fianna Fáil almost destroyed Ireland in the 1980s and would finish the job if it wasn’t removed from power. We warned that Bertie Ahern was dodgy, that Charlie McCreevy was a feckless spendthrift, that Brian Cowen was an empty canvas on which others could write whatever plan they wished, and that Fianna Fáil backbenchers were a bunch of preening wideboys who couldn’t be trusted with an éclair never mind an economy.
But we were the spoilsports, we were told, the left-wing pinkos; we should have gone off somewhere and killed ourselves.
Fine Gael and Labour would have done the same things, I was told on the radio. They would have made the same mistakes had John Bruton been able to win the 1997 general election and keep Bertie Ahern from power. We’d be exactly where we are now, broken, hopeless, unsure whether we have reached the bottom or whether there is still a long way to fall.
There’s no way of ever proving or disproving that contention, of course, which is a pretty handy situation for the people articulating it. All you can say to them is that the economy was in decent shape when Bruton handed it over and that while people do go on sometimes about Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael being Tweedledum and Tweedledee – the great cliché of Irish politics – the personalities who make up both parties are entirely different. There is a reckless, risktaking, selfish, win-at-all-costs mentality in the Fianna Fáil DNA that simply isn’t there in Fine Gael, whose exuberant dullness would have been ideal in managing an economic boom. In Fianna Fáil, the individual TD comes first, then the party, then the country. The result over the last 13 years has been a bunch of individuals high on their own power and sense of self-importance, swaggering around Ireland and the world, hoovering up champagne and compliments in the Galway tent, making sure that their developer pals and financial providers were looked after. The result of that we see all around us.
This is no time for the blame game, we are often told these days. We must look ahead. The point, of course, is that looking ahead without identifying the culprits and making them pay would be an entirely short-sighted exercise. We can only confidently embrace the future if we come to terms with the past. The destruction of Fianna Fáil is part of that reckoning. With the IMF and others in charge of the country for the next few years, that’s what the February general election will be all about….
Well said. Bringing those chancers to book must start with the ballot box. But what continues to puzzle me is that about 1 in 5 voters will, it seems, vote for the very people who caused all of our problems. My expectations about FF being adequately punished are tempered by these sample reports from the coverage of the 2009 local elections:
‘Stroke’ sweeps to victory in Loughrea
Fianna Fail member, Cllr Michael ‘Stroke’ Fahy swept the boards …. with 2247 first preference votes, or 12.3 per cent of all votes cast. Cllr Fahy was convicted of fraudulently benefiting from €7,055 from Galway County Council but has appealed the conviction, jail sentence and fine of €30,000.
Farmer sentenced to two years’ jail a surprise winner
A FARMER who was sentenced to two years in prison in 2002 for conspiring to steal a Department of Agriculture cheque worth over €20,000 pulled off one of the surprise victories of the election after he topped his local poll. Michael Clarke, of Beltra, polled 1,408 first preferences in the Dromore area of Co Sligo, getting elected on the first count. Mr Clarke (47), a former Fianna Fail candidate, said after his election that he had made mistakes in the past “and I acknowledge that”, but added that the “real jury of my peers” had now spoken.
Shock/Horror! Fianna Fail puts the party first. (Er….is that news?)
8 November, 2010
According to today’s Irish Independent,
Social Protection Minister Eamon O Cuiv was last night appointed Fianna Fail’s campaign manager in the upcoming by-election, even though he is due to oversee a raft of welfare cuts in next month’s Budget. The appointment of a key Budget minister to the role is set to provoke accusations that Fianna Fail is putting the interests of the party ahead of the needs of the country. Mr O Cuiv will have to dedicate large amounts of time to the Donegal South West by-election in the coming weeks amid growing worry among welfare recipients over planned cuts to their income.
Fianna Fáil putting the interests of the party ahead of the needs of the country: not exactly “Man Bites Dog“, is it?
My (doomed?) general election manifesto
26 September, 2010
I was thinking of running for the next Dáil with the following manifesto. It seems bonkers, of course, as I would be promising not to do all the things that have become de riguer if one wants to have a hope of election as a TD.
- I will not put purely local constituency interests before national interests.
- I will not help you to jump a queue for spurious reasons.
- I will not help you get something to which you are not in principle entitled.
- I will not hold “clinics” – here are my contact details – please make an appointment to see me, or send me an email, if it’s important.
- If you want assistance on a purely local government matter, well here’s a list of all the local government representatives. Don’t bother me about it….. Read the rest of this entry »
Ireland’s electoral system produces a massive Tragedy of the Commons
16 September, 2010
According to Wikipedia, a tragedy of the commons is
…. a dilemma arising from the situation in which multiple individuals, acting independently, and solely and rationally consulting their own self-interest, will ultimately deplete a shared limited resource even when it is clear that it is not in anyone’s long-term interest for this to happen. This dilemma was first described in an influential article titled “The Tragedy of the Commons,” written by Garrett Hardin and first published in the journal Science in1968……
Central to Hardin’s article is an example …. of herders sharing a common parcel of land, on which they are each entitled to let their cows graze. In Hardin’s example, it is in each herder’s interest to put the next (and succeeding) cows he acquires onto the land, even if the carrying capacity of the common is exceeded and it is temporarily or permanently damaged for all as a result. The herder receives all of the benefits from an additional cow, while the damage to the common is shared by the entire group. If all herders make this individually rational economic decision, the common will be depleted or even destroyed to the detriment of all.
Harding in 1968 was writing about how to deal with the population problem, but his words resonate for proponents of constitutional and electoral reform in Ireland.
Considering in isolation the localised and short-term interest of an individual voter in a general election in Ireland, it’s not too difficult to make out a case for voting for somebody like John O’Donoghue, Jackie Healy Rae, Pádraig Flynn or Willie O’Dea. They all are, or were, masters at getting things for their constituency and constituents, while being completely useless and profligate when judged on a national level.
The ridiculously over-specified roads in Castlebar were a tribute to Pee Flynn’s focus on his constituency, even at the expense of the national exchequer. And when then Minister John O’Donoghue pumped €5.5m from his Sports Capital and Local Authority Swimming Pools fund into the Killarney Sports and Leisure Project swimming pool, it didn’t seem to matter that the town already had several swimming pools available for use by the public, or that many communities in towns and cities around the country had no money at all available for a swimming pool. O’Donoghue’s pool subsequently closed due to lack of members availing of it, but not before this classic pork-barrel project had consumed shedloads of taxpayer money.
There are thousands of such examples, and the reader doesn’t need me to enumerate them – as they say, the dogs in the street know the score. In terms of Hardin’s analogy, voting for John O’Donoghue is like putting another cow on the common land; the individual voter receives the benefits from the additional “cow” through constituency goodies, while the damage to the common is shared by the entire Irish population.
Our electoral system is the problem. Former FG minister Gemma Hussey, in an article in the Irish Times last year wrote that:
We have in Ireland an electoral system, multi-seat proportional representation, which almost ensures that a broad range of the best brains and achievers in the country will never see the inside of Leinster House, much less the Cabinet room. At the same time, we have too many Dáil members….. The skills required to massage a constituency seven days and nights a week have nothing to do with running a small European country with an open economy….. Most modern democracies of western Europe have some variant of a list system, combined with proportionality. This means that the voter may choose to vote for a party list, which will be written up in the polling booth. Distinguished and/or well-known citizens from a variety of walks of life will have been chosen by their parties to head up their lists. Side by side there are opportunities to vote for individuals too.
On the basis that one should never waste a good crisis, there will never be as good a time as this to change an electoral system that is failing us as a country. If we don’t change the way we elect our politicians, then it is a certainty that further crises lie ahead.
Changing the system is a challenge, although both Fine Gael and the Green Party have publicly flirted with a partial list system. Yes, opponents pick holes in the list system approach, but no system is perfect, and Hardin’s words on the need for change are apposite:
It is one of the peculiarities of the warfare between reform and the status quo that it is thoughtlessly governed by a double standard. Whenever a reform measure is proposed it is often defeated when its opponents triumphantly discover a flaw in it. …. worshippers of the status quo sometimes imply that no reform is possible without unanimous agreement, an implication contrary to historical fact. As nearly as I can make out, automatic rejection of proposed reforms is based on one of two unconscious assumptions: (i) that the status quo is perfect; or (ii) that the choice we face is between reform and no action; if the proposed reform is imperfect, we presumably should take no action at all, while we wait for a perfect proposal…… But we can never do nothing. That which we have done for thousands of years is also action. It also produce evils.
Quote of the Year
25 April, 2010
Miriam Lord had a piece on Saturday in the Irish Times which is partly funny, partly tragic, and wholly revealing about the disfunctional nature of our electoral system.
The new clocking-in regime for TDs and Senators has been causing great angst for many in Leinster House, but a new twist in the saga has left critics of the system absolutely seething. On Thursday, they got a letter informing them that request number 403 under the Freedom of Information Act has been granted to an unnamed petitioner. The information sought is to be released on April 30th. The request is for the attendance records of TDs and Senators during the first two weeks of the new system, overall figures relating to the attendance and non-attendance for TDs and Senators in that period and a breakdown of who was, and was not, in attendance.
“This fobbing thing is causing blue murder,” a rural deputy tells us, referring to the small device they must use to register attendance…. “Nobody envisaged this happening, but now that our attendance is computerised it’s going to provide a whole new area for journalists to examine. It’s pure daft – how will anyone get re-elected if they have to spend so much time above in Leinster House? They won’t be able to get away for as much as a dog-fight or a funeral.”
There you have it. In 30-odd words, this anonymous rural deputy has unwittingly told a profound and depressing truth about how TDs get elected. Forget about Leinster House, forget about intelligent debate in the Dáil chamber, forget about valuable legislative and committee work. To get elected you have to be seen at every dog-fight and funeral in your constituency.
You also, incidentally, have to spend almost all your time getting two types of things done for your constituents: (a) things they are entitled to, and for which an appropriate system is in place at great taxpayer expense, but for which they are too lazy or corrupt to wait their turn in the queue; and (b) things they aren’t entitled to, but want you to bend or break the rules to ensure that they get them anyway, usually at the expense of more deserving cases.
Electoral reform can’t come too soon.
I have already noted that Minister for Finance Brian Lenihan, at the time of the banking crisis in 2008, leading up to the now notorious Government guarantee, was still devoting a very large amount of time to constituency clinics, and to local dinners and other functions. Could he not have given full priority to the complexities of his brief at that vital and dangerous time? If ever there was a time when one’s own re-election should have been subordinated to the national interest, this was it. We will never know if it would have made a difference, but when the stakes are so high, he should not have taken a chance.
Hurrah! The Greens want to Change our Electoral System
7 October, 2009
Good news: the Green Party has adopted electoral reform as one of its core policies, and is trying to get Fianna Fáil to buy into it as part of the new programme for Government. The Greens say:
The Irish system of multi-seat constituencies elected on the single transferable votes carries with it considerable advantages. Representatives are close to the people who elect them, and smaller parties have a greater potential to elect their candidates through this system. On the negative side, there is concern about TDs being over-concerned with constituency matters at the expense of the national outlook.
To counteract this we propose that a proportion of the seats be elected by a top-up procedure. For example, in a Dáil of 130 seats, 100 could be elected by local constituencies and 30 from the national lists of parties that have achieved at least 2% of the vote. In this way we would have deputies with both local and national perspectives.
This is exactly Read the rest of this entry »
I Give Up
20 June, 2009
So you think that the enormous economic and social problems we are facing will lead to a new era where voters will reject the old politics of croneyism and strokes? You sincerely believe that anybody convicted of stealing money from the hard-pressed taxpayer would be shunned by the voters in the unlikely event that they have the temerity to put themselves up for election? Hah!
The following snippets from the coverage of the recent local elections are almost too depressing for words. Read the rest of this entry »